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What Does Spiritual Advancement Mean To You? January 18, 2008

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  1. Anon Says:
    January 22, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Haribol,

    I agree with you, on how devotees assume that we are talking about settling down into grhasta life when the issue of material life pops up, especially when we are female. but i guess that many women always talk about this when they speak about material success, and it’ll take a while before we can move away from that attitude.

    by your statement that we reject to answer the plea of help from the less fortunate, simply because we are too concerned with chanting, but you must understand in order to beable to provide the help others need, you have to have saved yourself: the scenario of the drowning man comes to mind, if you can’t swim you will never beable to help him, you will end up hindering himself & yourself. so rather concentrate on the immediate and eventually saving others will not be a task.

    also the second lesson that you mentioned that you had learnt from KC is ‘to try to be in the mode of goodness always’, but that is not entirely true. i can see that you understand the 3modes of material nature, so i won’t explain that. however, iskcon is beyond these material modes in nature, we are meant to transcend beyond the mode of goodness–transcedental, and that is wer u receive the essence and abilities to help others.

    i nevertheless appreciate your great realisations, and i look forward to them as they are indeed insightful.

    thank you,
    your humble servant

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  2. Keerty Says:
    January 23, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Ooooh! Thanks for the constructive criticism. I shall keep the accepted views in mind next time. I completely agree with you about how woman / man should always help herself / himself first before anyone else (my father even gave me the specific example of helping oneself to the oxygen supply thingy on the aeroplane before aiding others).

    However, I still abide to my personal experience and views that it is ridiculous if one is an able-bodied and capable of aiding, but purposefully avoids it to simply advance in the name of God.

    Moreover, please allow me to clear up one slight blur about how I conveyed my ‘second lesson’. I deliberately did not mention Divya-guna, (although initially contemplating it) because I was referring to life in the material world; as far as I am concerned one can attain this mode of transcendence – or unqualified goodness – only through Sattva-guna. Nevertheless, the saying does go: the sky is the limit, so you’re right; I should’ve written how one must aim to be in Divya-guna, so we can come as close as possible to achieving it.

    Thank you. Hare Krshna!

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